From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:49:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9ddg7o8.fsf@engster.org> <87d2i9ee8t.fsf@engster.org> <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> <87sir336qn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140301215057.GA19461@thyrsus.com> <87fvn1y0vx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvn0senq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761nusb90.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87vbkovhh7.fsf@engster.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420300169 14615 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2015 15:49:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 03 16:49:24 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7Qx9-0003fy-JD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:49:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54645 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7Qx9-0003HT-5b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:49:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54510) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7Qx5-0003HO-Ks for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:49:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7Qx0-0006J3-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:49:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7Qx0-0006Iv-41 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:49:14 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7Qwz-0003Jt-Jk; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:49:13 -0500 In-reply-to: <87vbkovhh7.fsf@engster.org> (message from David Engster on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 01:24:36 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180943 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > My hope is that we can work out a kind of "detailed output" that is > > enough for what Emacs wants, but not enough for misuse of GCC front ends. > Anyone can write a GCC plugin that simply outputs the AST in some > form. We are not talking about the same thing. What I have in mind is to output considerably LESS than the AST -- just enough to do the completion and other operations that Emacs needs, and NO MORE. To figure out just what Emacs needs, that's the task I am talking about. > Instead, is there anyone here who would > > like to work on this in detail? > I'm already working on it. Are you working on outputting just the data that Emacs needs for completion? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.