From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Correspondence between web-pages and Info-pages Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:24:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <81A0F722-D302-4298-B506-55A3FA8DC44B@gmail.com> <5FQ2dQBTuvmn9epBBJwjkqA1D9qGmfVNRcstoLb4rYx@local> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420241102 7377 80.91.229.3 (2 Jan 2015 23:25:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: yandros@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kelly Dean Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 03 00:24:58 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7BaT-0002mG-Gi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 00:24:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52884 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7BaS-0006oC-Ba for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:24:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59966) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7BaC-0006nV-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:24:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7BaB-0003gO-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:24:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32875) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7BaB-0003gH-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:24:39 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7BaA-0006jc-G6; Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:24:38 -0500 In-reply-to: <5FQ2dQBTuvmn9epBBJwjkqA1D9qGmfVNRcstoLb4rYx@local> (message from Kelly Dean on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 19:08:06 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180930 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Suppose Emacs gets an integrated browser, that displays both HTML > pages and Info pages. Like Firefox is an integrated browser for > HTML and PDF. In the latter case, if some document is available in > both versions, you can often pick which one you want by just > swapping .html vs. .pdf at the end of the URL. If both the > HTML and PDF versions of a page were named foo (or even worse, > both were named foo.html ), how would you pick which one to > request from the server? Does this problem need to be solved? I want to replace current Info format with an HTML-Info format that will be valid HTML, used in a stylized way. This Emacs browser (like any other browser) will always get our manuals in the form of HTML. It won't need to try to handle some other format. If the browser is Info-aware, it will determine from the contents of the manual whether to implement the Info commands on it. There will be no need for browsers to try to choose between two formats of a manual, if the only format we use is a form of HTML. Rather, the two modes we will want a browser to handle are (1) locally installed files and (2) files fetched with http over the web. Since the same files could be accessed either way, we want to make sure that the same file contents work both ways. This affects how cross-refereces have to be handled. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.