From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:24:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvc858c6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ioh4nf8k.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83y4pzptpx.fsf@gnu.org> <871tnr1gqo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83bnmvowdb.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppbanqhe.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbl2xigp.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83ioh2nlow.fsf@gnu.org> <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87vbkvgt5j.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419895506 2737 80.91.229.3 (29 Dec 2014 23:25:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 23:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, nferrier@ferrier.me.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 30 00:25:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5jgK-0005rR-8e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:25:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35106 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5jgJ-0004pC-KI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:24:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36092) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5jfW-0003QR-Gr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:24:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5jfT-0001Si-A0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:24:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54106) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5jfT-0001SV-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:24:07 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5jfS-0003ic-86; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:24:06 -0500 In-reply-to: <87vbkvgt5j.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Mon, 29 Dec 2014 02:59:52 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180871 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > These is already a node structure in HTML generated by makeinfo > in form of , , . > Menus are represented by class="menu", and indices by class="index". We should not feel any obligation to stick with that old form of Info. The goal is to provide the most Info-like possible behavior in a browser. This may require a different representation. Part of what Nic is working on is to determine what representation is best. He can use the same format or a different one. > It would be great to include JavaScript in the output generated by makeinfo. I've decided against this. > > 3. An extension for Firefox to implement Info-style commands > > using that data. > A Firefox extension requires the users to install it, > so this won't be a convenient option to use HTML-Info manuals. I've made this decision on ethical grounds. The ethical issue overrides that practical one (which is a small one, after all). -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.