From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:34:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> <5498C82D.5080605@cs.ucla.edu> <54991A97.1070605@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419348894 6791 80.91.229.3 (23 Dec 2014 15:34:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 15:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: adatgyujto@gmail.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 23 16:34:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3RU0-00028j-1e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 16:34:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45186 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3RTz-0004ai-IE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:34:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55878) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3RTK-0003HM-0f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:34:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3RTJ-0004wT-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:34:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3RTJ-0004w6-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:34:05 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3RTI-0001dO-9l; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:34:04 -0500 In-reply-to: <54991A97.1070605@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:32:39 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180569 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > so here's an example using a well-documented topic. Let's say I want the time > of day in Emacs. If I visit the Elisp manual in info mode and type 'i time of > day RET' Emacs responds "No `timestamp of day' in index" (there's that ugly > 1980s-style quoting again!) and fails, Would you like to fix this? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.