From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:56:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87388mme16.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87a92u86wv.fsf@gnu.org> <87d27oliue.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3w2fgux.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871to1f69o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87egrza8qa.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3vx528t.fsf@zigzag.favinet> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419159452 21919 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 10:57:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:57:32 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 11:57:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eCP-0005eD-5I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:57:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37019 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eCO-00074c-Lu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:57:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eC5-000711-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eC3-0007Ag-Vw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eC3-0007Ac-TV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:56:59 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eC3-0007Ld-C7; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:56:59 -0500 In-reply-to: <87r3vx528t.fsf@zigzag.favinet> (message from Thien-Thi Nguyen on Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:40:34 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180421 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The IXIN format maintains all the semantic features > and drops most of the layout features of the Info > format, being essentially a re-arranged parse tree > dump (in Lisp- and Scheme-friendly sexps) of the > Texinfo input. Unhandled layout features are left > to the renderer. I think I understand this now. It could be a good distribution format for use by a specialized Info reader, but would not be usable by ordinary web browsers. Thus, I think it is still a good idea to develop an HTML-Info format that would be usable by ordinary web browsers, but would have stylized constructions so that a specialized or customized browser could provide all the user-level features of an Info browser. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.