From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87wq66ufyt.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zjb04tlw.fsf@gmx.us> <87bnnfve9c.fsf@dod.no> <871to5kt1a.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87y4q8yi4j.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <871tnywkjt.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87h9wro0o4.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419159366 20980 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 10:56:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kyle.c.andrews@gmail.com, sb@dod.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 11:55:58 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eB3-0004a0-Q9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:55:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37007 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eB3-0005cJ-BY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAf-0005aL-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAe-0005yQ-Oa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53111) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAe-0005yK-ML for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAd-0004t2-At; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:31 -0500 In-reply-to: <87h9wro0o4.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180418 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I would put that text near the node definition. In principle I have nothing against it. > Or alternatively, I would ask, iff the extra text is worth seeing in a > menu item point to a page, why it is also not worth seeing in the page > itself. > Menu: > Abbrevs Concepts: Fundamentals of defined abbrevs > Should open to a page > Fundamentals of defined abbrevs > (Abbrevs Concepts). In Info the node will display, as a title, the section name which can be different from those two. At present, in that node, the section name is "Abbrev Concepts", same as the node name. But we could use a longer title such as "Fundamental Concepts of Abbrevs". That might be an improvement. That's the reason why the section title can be different from the node name. The node name should be a terse stand-alone description of the node's topic. The section title should also be a stand-alone description of the node's topic, but can be longer. The added text on the menu line is meant to supplement the node name with more information about that node. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.