From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 02:54:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419062074 5319 80.91.229.3 (20 Dec 2014 07:54:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 07:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, ludo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 20 08:54:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Ers-0001CR-BV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 08:54:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33643 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Err-0004Ln-3W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 02:54:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36521) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Erd-0004LW-L8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 02:54:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Erc-0003H7-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 02:54:13 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58231) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Erc-0003H1-J3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 02:54:12 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Erb-0004UL-7H; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 02:54:11 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Lennart Borgman on Fri, 19 Dec 2014 00:47:52 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180360 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The web service is not free, What do you think it means to say a web service is free or not? We have no definition for that. We don't use that terminology. Our definition of "free" makes sense for _works_, not for services. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-nonfree.html. Services raise totally different issues. Therefore, I urge people NOT to call any service "free" or "proprietary". It causes confusion. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.