From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:39:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9x2f9me.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87a92uf8ik.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8761dif6ib.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k31xkue1.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87mw6tj8gp.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87sigifh44.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418632817 30505 80.91.229.3 (15 Dec 2014 08:40:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: yandros@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 15 09:40:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0RCO-0005Mm-EF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:40:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38445 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0RCN-00044D-Le for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:40:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42965) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0RBt-0003lo-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:39:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0RBs-0004vP-9l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:39:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53531) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0RBr-0004vJ-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:39:39 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0RBr-0002nc-9Z; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:39:39 -0500 In-reply-to: <87sigifh44.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180132 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > This sort of functionality uses client-side javascript, which is > > something of a concern. > I don't see why that's more of a concern than "client-side Lisp". "Client-side Javascript" is a simple referrence to the problem, but if you take it as a complete description of the problem, that can lead to misunderstanding what the issue is. The problem with Javascript is in the form of its usual usage scenario: the browser gets it in a web page sent by some other machine and runs it directly from that page. That's the way "client-side Javascript" usually works. If someone takes a verbal shortcut and refers to that problem by saying "client-side Javascript", would you please keep in mind that the real issue is what I stated in the paragraph above? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.