From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9x2f9me.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87a92uf8ik.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8761dif6ib.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k31xkue1.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87mw6tj8gp.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418435257 6482 80.91.229.3 (13 Dec 2014 01:47:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 01:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 13 02:47:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xzbnu-0002IK-Rv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 02:47:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59993 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xzbnu-0006TL-GT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40175) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xzbnp-0006OY-27 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:47:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xzbnm-0004xB-PI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:47:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xzbnm-0004wu-Ms for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:47:22 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xzbnm-0007Eg-5x; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:47:22 -0500 In-reply-to: <87mw6tj8gp.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179971 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy2/#%281%29 > This implements next and previous buttons like info. Do you have to click on the buttons to use them? If so, that is not as convenient as the Info reader, with its n and p commands. I don't think any general web browser could give the convenience of Info. The Info-style n and p commands (and others) don't belong in a general web browser. However, I expect that a special purpose HTML-Info reader could give all the same convenience, operating on a stylized form of HTML. That would be a step up from using Info format because it would support a lot more kinds of contents and structure. Another advantage: the files WOULD be browsable with a general web browser, even though that would be less convenient than browsing them with the special purpose HTML-Info reader. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.