From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:42:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87tx19rd1b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141205215138.GF7784@thyrsus.com> <54823617.4000406@cs.ucla.edu> <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> <5482D94B.2070102@cs.ucla.edu> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> <87388p6glt.fsf@engster.org> <871to9lw6g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5486A704.6090305@cs.ucla.edu> <87k321jj4e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54876F7F.9000607@cs.ucla.edu> <87y4qfj2u9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54889A57.5060905@cs.ucla.edu> <87vbljb9f4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <54889F6D.6060408@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3w7b83a.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488C710.3000209@cs.ucla.edu> <871to7ayv9.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418402570 20393 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2014 16:42:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 17:42:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzTIg-0004Pz-Fi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:42:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58301 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzTIg-0005e7-2V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:42:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzTIZ-0005YD-GL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzTIY-0001I2-Kv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:42:35 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzTIY-0001Hy-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:42:34 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzTIW-0002WJ-FQ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:42:32 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Lennart Borgman on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:51:05 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179940 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > But is not "enemy" a bad word too? I think you use it to say those > people believe in other things. No, I am talking about proprietary software developers, purveyors of DRM, and such. They want power over people, and we fight to take away their power. "Enemies" is exactly the word for that. > Using the word "enemy" might make it more difficult to listen to them. > Good ideas comes also from people we do not always agree with. We have no prejudice against good TECHNICAL ideas that happen to come from our enemies. But this is not a technical competition. We are fighting to give users freedom, and our enemies are fighting to deny users that same freedom. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.