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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:59:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Xy5Os-0004cU-HF@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ae6762d-a52a-4a06-b2e9-dab893a22d38@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 7 Dec 2014 21:34:06 -0800 (PST))

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  > I wonder whether perhaps Richard ran into the need to use prefixes
  > so much because he was implementing the CL package system, and not
  > just making normal use of it.  Just a conjecture.

I implemented all the Common Lisp features (of which the package
system was one) in the Lisp Machine operating system, which included
lots of programs to do lots of things.  (An Emacs-like editor was one
of them.)

In practice, the goal of using names without prefixes via importing
namespace did not work out.

I make the conjecture that name space importing is convenient when you
have lots of small modules, each with its own name space and not many
names, and each referring to just a few other modules.  That's not how
the Lisp Machine system was written, and it's also mostly not how
Emacs was written.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-08 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-04 23:43 Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05  1:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  2:42   ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05  3:23     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05  3:32       ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05  4:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  8:52           ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05 14:40             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 14:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 15:34               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 18:32                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06  9:38                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05  9:54   ` David Kastrup
2014-12-05 14:51     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:12       ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 18:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 19:06           ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  3:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 18:01   ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 19:19     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:54       ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05  5:47 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-12-05 14:49   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:20     ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 19:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:26         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06  0:13           ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  0:22             ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  4:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-06  9:12             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06 22:24               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07  3:10                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07  6:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07  7:51                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 16:22                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-07 17:40                         ` Namespace macros (was: Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs) Helmut Eller
2014-12-08  0:11                           ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08  7:55                             ` Namespace macros Helmut Eller
2014-12-08  8:36                               ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08  9:17                                 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 11:02                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 11:21                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 11:42                                       ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 11:52                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 12:52                                     ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 20:59                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 23:37                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-09  0:25                                         ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-07 18:30                         ` Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Drew Adams
2014-12-08  0:25                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08  1:21                           ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  5:34                             ` Drew Adams
2014-12-08 20:59                               ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2014-12-08 21:48                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 19:35                                   ` namespaces Ivan Shmakov
2014-12-08 20:59                             ` Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Richard Stallman
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     [not found]                           ` <<5484FD09.60603@dancol.org>
     [not found]                             ` <<9ae6762d-a52a-4a06-b2e9-dab893a22d38@default>
     [not found]                               ` <<E1Xy5Os-0004cU-HF@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-12-08 21:17                                 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 16:51                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 17:29                         ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 21:17                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 21:26                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 21:32                             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 21:43                               ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 23:31                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 23:39                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  2:23                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  2:24                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  3:23                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 10:01                                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-08 20:35                                         ` David Engster
2014-12-08 21:45                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  0:18                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08  2:25                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  2:55                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-07  8:54                 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-07  9:25                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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