From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:11:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87zjd9swfj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oatnqpml.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874mvdrj45.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20141009044917.GA19957@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lhopisfr.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppe1pldu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761ft5wpo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83k349b0vj.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnph96kh.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppdwo7ll.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413252693 20978 80.91.229.3 (14 Oct 2014 02:11:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, mikegerwitz@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 14 04:11:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XdraA-0005Bu-00 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 04:11:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36053 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xdra9-0004t8-Hy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:11:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33380) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrZx-0004t3-Ol for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:11:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrZw-0002mZ-Vc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:11:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48393) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrZw-0002mV-S7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:11:12 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrZv-0003lK-Sm; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:11:11 -0400 In-reply-to: <87ppdwo7ll.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175338 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Speaking only for myself, no, I mean all octet streams purported to be encoded text, network or local. We can't do that. That would be intolerable for users, for the reasons others have explained. However, the examples people have offered mostly include working in pipelines with network services. Those cases involve noninteractive processing and using the network. It would be ok in those cases to be more strict about decoding. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.