From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:09:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87zjd9swfj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oatnqpml.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874mvdrj45.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20141009044917.GA19957@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lhopisfr.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppe1pldu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761ft5wpo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83k349b0vj.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnph96kh.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjd07ce0.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413252594 18110 80.91.229.3 (14 Oct 2014 02:09:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, mikegerwitz@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stephen@xemacs.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 14 04:09:49 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrYZ-0004Gl-4e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 04:09:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrYY-0004Jj-2w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33057) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrYU-0004Jc-9g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:09:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrYR-0002HM-No for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:09:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48310) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrYR-0002HI-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:09:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdrYP-0003IC-9i; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:09:37 -0400 In-reply-to: <83zjd07ce0.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:43:35 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175337 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] That distinction is quite blurred in latest Emacs versions. E.g., shell-command-to-string might call a process on a remote host and communicate with it via open-network-stream or some such. There are several interactive commands already that use this feature. The cases where their arguments for strictness are strongest are the noninteractive ones that don't show the text to a user for editing. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.