From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:25:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <838uktm9gw.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9zgarvp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877g097l02.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412951222 14280 80.91.229.3 (10 Oct 2014 14:27:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:27:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 10 16:26:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb99-0002gW-Vg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:26:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48604 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb99-0006si-E7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:26:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38431) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb8q-0006r5-T1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:26:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb8q-0007Qc-1M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:26:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48893) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb8p-0007QW-V6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:25:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb8p-00074b-Ao; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:25:59 -0400 In-reply-to: <877g097l02.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Thu, 09 Oct 2014 09:36:13 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175219 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > One problem with that is that quite often Emacs' choice of a coding > system for a buffer is the result of heuristics rather than dependable > information. Not making a fuzz might often be simplest. > > Could you explain what "fuzz" means here? You load a file, edit a line, try saving. Emacs complains that it feels insecure doing so even though the line you edited is perfectly fine. Sorry, I do not follow you. Are you proposing a change in current Emacs behavior? If so, what change would that be? A recurring phenomenon in that direction is generation of number presentations that can no longer be processed because of being written under the influence of an LC_NUMERIC setting developers did not expect. I am lost here. Can you present a specific example? Do you have a bug to report? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.