From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87wq8pwjen.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g0ptnlj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <838uktm9gw.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9zgarvp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83y4srjaot.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3yhiu8c.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412951130 12618 80.91.229.3 (10 Oct 2014 14:25:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stephen@xemacs.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 10 16:25:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb7e-0001Bo-Pp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:24:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48593 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb7e-0005XX-BO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:24:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb7W-0005UY-Dr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:24:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb7V-0006iO-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:24:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb7V-0006i7-ID for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:24:37 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcb7U-0006QL-JQ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:24:36 -0400 In-reply-to: <83r3yhiu8c.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:21:23 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175217 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I am talking about Lisp > functions to do conversions on text that does NOT come from files. ... Emacs treats all of these cases the same. They don't HAVE to be treated the same. We are talking about changes, here. But changes may not be needed. All operations that do encoding or decoding allow explicit specification of the coding system. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.