From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:03:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87k34qo4c1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54257C22.2000806@yandex.ru> <83iokato6x.fsf@gnu.org> <87wq8pwjen.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g0ptnlj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <838uktm9gw.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppe5rt5l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412690640 30263 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2014 14:04:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 07 16:03:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVMm-0000JR-BL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:03:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59063 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVMl-0002WH-SB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:03:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33878) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVMd-0002V1-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:03:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVMb-0005El-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:03:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40236) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVMb-0005Ed-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:03:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVMb-0004pX-4P; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:03:41 -0400 In-reply-to: <87ppe5rt5l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175063 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] In the GNU Project, we do not "obey" standards. Rather, we take them into account when judging what is best for the program to do. Emacs could conceivably report an error after decoding a file as UTF-8 which turns out to have invalid text. That way, the user will have the chance to decide whether to accept the decoding or not. If the user accepts it, the buffer should represent everything that is in the file. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.