From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:15:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87lhp6h4zb.fsf@panthera.terpri.org> <87k34qo4c1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54257C22.2000806@yandex.ru> <83iokato6x.fsf@gnu.org> <87wq8pwjen.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g0ptnlj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <871tqlubqe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412622981 7936 80.91.229.3 (6 Oct 2014 19:16:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 06 21:16:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbDlX-0007Z3-Oi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:16:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53905 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbDlX-0008FC-4w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:16:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58873) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbDkp-0008Af-22 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbDko-0001k3-2i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:15:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbDko-0001jz-0F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:15:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbDke-0001KY-AS; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:15:20 -0400 In-reply-to: <871tqlubqe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175043 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'd like to know how it is that "raw bytes" have security implications. > Are there programs that make assumptions about the contents of strings? > That seems like bad design. Yes, they do, and no, it's poor implementation, not bad design -- they're conforming to standards that say that string contents will have a specific form and are unfortunately imperfectly protected from invalid input by their I/O modules (for example, the \201 bug in Emacs itself). ...If that program is a spam/virus checker,... Do people write spam/virus checkers using Guile? This issue is specifically about Guile. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.