From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Overlay mechanic improvements Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:11:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871tr6qup8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411427768 11333 80.91.229.3 (22 Sep 2014 23:16:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 23 01:16:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XWCpv-0002LE-Fa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 01:16:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49893 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XWCpu-0007C8-HA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40794) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XWCpr-0007Ba-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:16:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XWCpp-0005hp-Rc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:15:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XWCpp-0005gA-PV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:15:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XWClj-0004o1-0h; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:11:43 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 21 Sep 2014 20:31:11 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174661 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I must say I'm troubled by your questions and objections. What is the problem with my proposal? Are you afraid it will make Emacs worse? Or are you afraid it simply won't work? Why do you care if we keep overlays in a tree instead of singly-linked lists? We may be miscommunicating. I think you're interpreting each thing I say as an argument against reimplementing overlays, but I'm mostly talking about other issues that came up in the discussion. I must not have noticed the message that made a specific proposal for how to reimplement overlays. I'm concerned about code complexity and bugs that might introduce, but I'm not necessarily against it. Mostly I'm not talking about that. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.