From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Guile emacs thread (again) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:20:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <87bnqdnmlq.fsf@panthera.terpri.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411219465 26758 80.91.229.3 (20 Sep 2014 13:24:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 13:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robin Templeton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 20 15:24:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XVKeB-0008JM-FB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 15:24:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34605 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVKeB-0004ak-10 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:24:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVKe5-0004X0-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:24:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVKe4-0004cy-5j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:24:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVKe4-0004bw-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVKaG-0006FI-QE; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:20:16 -0400 In-reply-to: <87bnqdnmlq.fsf@panthera.terpri.org> (message from Robin Templeton on Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:23:45 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174577 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] It will not mean that Elisp programs will need to be rewritten in Scheme, or even that Emacs will necessarily support extensions written in Scheme Supporting Emacs extensions written in Scheme is part of the goal I had in mind when I proposed this. That's the tangible benefit that we would get from Scheme support. If all Scheme does is serve as a platform for Emacs Lisp, it is no real advance. It is ok if it is necessary to write these extensions in a slightly unusual style to get them to interoperate properly with Emacs Lisp programs. For instance, maybe it would require using special functions to test for Elisp nil. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.