From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Raw string literals in Emacs lisp. Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:41:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878ungor1v.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761ijng08.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871tt7lzro.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <53D567FD.4030708@porkrind.org> <87r412iobp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <53D9586F.6020705@porkrind.org> <87bns6in3g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <20140802084744.GA3541@acm.acm> <87vbqbqmn3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8738dem5hr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zjfmowu0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4v5lntb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87egwxputn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87sildliqr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ppggoj3m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407202882 12356 80.91.229.3 (5 Aug 2014 01:41:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 01:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 05 03:41:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XETkZ-0005be-36 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 03:41:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55858 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XETkY-0007V7-OX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:41:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50196) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XETkV-0007Uz-Ck for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:41:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XETkU-0001Pn-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53153) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XETkU-0001OI-AF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:41:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XETkT-0001c1-7r; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:41:09 -0400 In-reply-to: <87ppggoj3m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Mon, 04 Aug 2014 08:38:05 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173422 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Well, I am not sure about the size of the wart in practice. It has not apparently caused much of a disturbance for XEmacs. It certainly seems less relevant in practice than our traditional wart (info "(emacs) Left Margin Paren") with regard to reliable detection of strings out of context. That problem is in a different feature (finding the start of a function), and we recommend a preventive measure to avoid it. So it is not a real problem. In Elisp, it is a solved problem. But even if it were a real problem, this argument is invalid in form. The existence of one problem we can't fix does not make it good to create another. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.