From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:32:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <871tyqes5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87a9ddg7o8.fsf@engster.org> <87d2i9ee8t.fsf@engster.org> <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> <87sir336qn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140301215057.GA19461@thyrsus.com> <87fvn1y0vx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvn0senq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761nusb90.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <531EAD89.5010505@dancol.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395001971 28693 80.91.229.3 (16 Mar 2014 20:32:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 20:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, dak@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 16 21:33:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WPHjv-0007ga-7A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 21:32:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54515 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPHju-00031X-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33833) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPHjr-00030Z-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:32:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPHjo-0008FL-TK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:32:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39733) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPHjo-0008FF-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:32:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPHjn-0004qO-68; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:32:51 -0400 In-reply-to: <531EAD89.5010505@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Mon, 10 Mar 2014 23:30:33 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170425 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Suicidal charges on entrenched positions make for great drama, but poor results; it's better to run and fight another day. I have thought carefully about the likelihood of various outcomes. However, none of them are likely to result in killing any of us. This colorful exaggeration shows you've got it wrong. you've argued those who disagreed with your decisions could be doing so only out of a secret desire to undermine free software. Statements like "I don't trust your judgment about how to achieve our goals because you don't want to achieve them." are circular nonsense. Our community is full of people who work on free software and disagree with the free software movement. Often they say so, sometimes very loudly. What you are saying here shows your picture of the general situation is very misguided. Arguments based on that are not cogent. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.