From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:35:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <871tyqes5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87a9ddg7o8.fsf@engster.org> <87d2i9ee8t.fsf@engster.org> <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> <87sir336qn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140301215057.GA19461@thyrsus.com> <87fvn1y0vx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvn0senq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393878918 29120 80.91.229.3 (3 Mar 2014 20:35:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 03 21:35:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WKZaB-0003Jp-EW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 21:35:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41622 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WKZaB-00075W-2Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:35:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37498) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WKZa8-00075O-8c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:35:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WKZa6-0004N0-Pn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:35:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51728) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WKZa6-0004Mw-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:35:22 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WKZa5-0003IE-J8; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:35:21 -0500 In-reply-to: <87fvn0senq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170102 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Reciprocity is an aspect of the point of the GNU GPL, but its main point is _defending users' freedom_. With the GNU GPL (and copyleft in general), we make sure that all copies of all versions of our code _respect users' freedom_. We make sure that if people develop nonfree software, if we can't stop them, at least we deny them the benefit of our help. We also oblige them, in some circumstances, to contribute their improvements to our community, and that's the reciprocity aspect. stifling friendly competition is a very bad thing, By calling LLVM "friendly competition" you misrepresent the issue at stake. You're wasting your time, asking me to change my mind based on ignoring what's at stake. In any case, we are not in a position to stifle LLVM, so you're discussing an imaginary issue. have we learned nothing from the Great Planning Experiments of Marx-Lenin-Stalin-ism? Lots of projects make plans and implement them. If you equate making plans to Communist dictatorship, you've gone off the deep end. And that's not to mention that your accusation is so nasty that we shouldn't be on speaking terms. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.