From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87wqgr4v18.fsf@yandex.ru> <53064BD0.7070009@yandex.ru> <87ha7tr5bo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ppmhecd8.fsf@yandex.ru> <87y50z90pd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87txbn8r6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8338j717oe.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjlf6tdx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83sir7yue7.fsf@gnu.org> <8761o3dlak.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <871tyqes5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87a9ddg7o8.fsf@engster.org> <87d2i9ee8t.fsf@engster.org> <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393562228 14003 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2014 04:37:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, john@yates-sheets.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 28 05:37:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJFCG-0006jI-QS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 05:37:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49237 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJFCF-00074h-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:37:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJFCC-00074P-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:37:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJFCB-000550-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:37:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJFCB-00054o-5l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:37:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJFC9-0007Kw-6Y; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:37:09 -0500 In-reply-to: <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> (message from David Engster on Thu, 27 Feb 2014 21:31:44 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169918 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Anyway, Stefan gave is OK on libclang usage, That statement seems to be a misunderstanding. My decision, as head of the GNU Project, is that we will not install anything in Emacs or ELPA that uses clang or LLVM. You can use CEDET, you can use GCC, you can use both, or you can use something else. But not clang or LLVM. This decision is necessary for achieving more the goal of the GNU Project, which is to give computer users' freedom in their computing in general -- not just in their text editing. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.