From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:30:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <52FCD2B4.5080006@yandex.ru> <52FD9F1D.50205@yandex.ru> <83mwhucg1h.fsf@gnu.org> <878ute589i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2iqc84m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqgxkcr9.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n41db0d.fsf@gnu.org> <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> <831tz5daes.fsf@gnu.org> <8738jlohd6.fsf@yandex.ru> <83txc1bl83.fsf@gnu.org> <5300189A.9090208@yandex.ru> <83wqgv9fbj.fsf@gnu.org> <20140216180712.236069f6@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <87wqgnvkqn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393086620 11031 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2014 16:30:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, forcer@forcix.cx, dgutov@yandex.ru, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 22 17:30:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFT9-0007Fx-Ni for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:30:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50102 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFT9-00016G-Ao for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:30:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32982) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFT5-00015I-2c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:30:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFT1-0000wv-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:30:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38157) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFT1-0000wp-Pa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:30:19 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFT0-0006jx-SS; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:30:18 -0500 In-reply-to: <87wqgnvkqn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169813 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] In this particular case, you've been told that outputting fully annotated ASTs is a desirable feature, and you decided it's a bad idea (for software freedom) to support it because it allows nonfree frontends and backends to be written for GCC backends and frontends respectively. So you've opposed GCC support for that feature. Right. And you understand why. However, a feature make a background process that responds to inquiries such as "What's the type of symbol FOO on line L, char C" is ok. And that's exactly what we would want for this. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.