From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:28:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83mwhucg1h.fsf@gnu.org> <878ute589i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2iqc84m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqgxkcr9.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n41db0d.fsf@gnu.org> <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> <831tz5daes.fsf@gnu.org> <8738jlohd6.fsf@yandex.ru> <83txc1bl83.fsf@gnu.org> <5300189A.9090208@yandex.ru> <83wqgv9fbj.fsf@gnu.org> <20140216180712.236069f6@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <87wqgr4v18.fsf@yandex.ru> <53064BD0.7070009@yandex.ru> <87ha7tr5bo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ppmhecd8.fsf@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393086532 10294 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2014 16:28:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: John Yates Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 22 17:29:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFRl-0006Ln-Cn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:29:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50098 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFRk-0000Th-Vd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:29:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFRh-0000TP-Uy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:28:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFRf-0008QN-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:28:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38076) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFRf-0008QI-CH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:28:55 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WHFRd-0006IX-QI; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:28:53 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from John Yates on Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:12:53 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169812 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Namely that clang is not a compiler frontend per se but a set of performance-focused components targeted at building C++-aware (often interactive) tools. Remember that the main purpose of the GNU system -- including GNU Emacs -- is freedom. Technical progress and convenience are _secondary_ goals. Copyleft is needed to defend freedom, which is why Clang is so harmful to our freedom. There are already nonfree versions of Clang that do tremendous harm to our movement. Allowing nonfree versions of GCC would not help us "win" anything that matters -- it would only mean surrender. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.