From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: eww Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:33:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zjn0gmas.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87fvorbjuh.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87r48aaog5.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <878uui6cqr.fsf@yahoo.fr> <87k3e2ldpd.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <52D56C90.7000902@yahoo.fr> <87y52ijufd.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <877ga172zi.fsf@igel.home> <52D6B310.8080702@yahoo.fr> <87y52f4wn7.fsf@igel.home> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390048488 20041 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2014 12:34:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bzg@gnu.org, theonewiththeevillook@yahoo.fr, schwab@linux-m68k.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 18 13:34:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4V72-0001Xc-GM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:34:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42451 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4V72-0005o2-1q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:34:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55217) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4V5g-0003iT-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:33:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4V5f-0004yd-By for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:33:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4V5f-0004yT-9n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:33:31 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4V5e-0000o3-FB; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:33:30 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:04:57 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168675 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Nothing at all. This problem with etags exists already with many other macros and noone cares. Are you sure no one cares? When people look for a tag, and it isn't defined, they will hunt around and find it somehow. These problems are sloppinesses, and we can avoid them by taking a little care in defining the macros, or by making etags recognize them specially. Since noone ever bothered to create those for define-derived-mode and other such macros, I can't imagine that it's important to do it for define-alternative which is used just about nowhere. It's bad in define-derived-mode, too. It's unfortunate that there is no tag for `...-mode-map'. However, at least the presence of `mode' will suggest to people where they should look. There is no comparable word in `web-alternatives' to suggest where to look. We could make find-tag know about these cases, so it will find the tags anyway. That won't even make tag tables do it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.