From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Time to drop the pre-dump phase in the build? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:17:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140110191530.5772E38019B@snark.thyrsus.com> <83ha9bborj.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389424627 30914 80.91.229.3 (11 Jan 2014 07:17:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 07:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 11 08:17:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1sol-0006rM-3C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 08:17:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60425 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1sok-0007YR-MG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:17:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35619) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1soh-0007Y6-R6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:17:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1soh-0007cc-2c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:17:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46042) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1sog-0007cY-WA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:17:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1sog-0006vy-GZ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:17:10 -0500 In-reply-to: <83ha9bborj.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:49:52 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168068 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > (3) Back when I last looked at it (admittedly a long time ago) > the dump code was both the largest single source of porting > problems and a serious attractor of crash bugs. Didn't hear about these in a while, perhaps several years. 20 years ago we needed to port the dumping code to various different systems. It was substantial work. But it seems there have been no new such systems in a long time, and that code seems to be stable. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.