From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Apologia for bzr Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <52CB12DE.7040905@dancol.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389113614 11413 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 16:53:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, toby-dated-1389972095.0848dd@dr-qubit.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 17:53:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0ZuM-0002Uj-E0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:53:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41671 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0ZuM-0000K5-4a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41700) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0ZuI-0000Hb-A2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0ZuH-00009d-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35630) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0ZuH-00009X-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0ZuF-0000LH-V7; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:32 -0500 In-reply-to: <52CB12DE.7040905@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:32:30 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167627 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] At least on the lisp level, we would have to maintain compatibility aliases effectively forever, doubling the number of lisp symbols dealing with these concepts. I don't think it has to be forever. After a few years, we could drop the old names. We could rename `window' to `pane', but not rename `frame'. That way, there would be no incompatibility, and only one stage of renaming would be required. I am still not saying we _should_ do this. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.