From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: SHA, MD, and openssl Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:13:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83mwkbyw6v.fsf@gnu.org> <52A4DE34.7060407@cs.ucla.edu> <874n6h3238.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <52A762D6.5020908@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386774799 817 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2013 15:13:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 11 16:13:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VqlTZ-0006yy-GO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 16:13:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57843 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqlTY-0006zn-T1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:13:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqlTV-0006ye-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:13:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqlTP-0004eE-Ur for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:13:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqlTP-0004eA-Rr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:13:15 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqlTP-0002ls-CA; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:13:15 -0500 In-reply-to: <52A762D6.5020908@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:52:06 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166296 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The pattern, I expect, is that if it's reasonable to consider running Emacs on a GNU/Linux-based platform, these days openssl is most likely a standard part of that platform. The actual criterion is The "System Libraries" of an executable work include anything, other than the work as a whole, that (a) is included in the normal form of packaging a Major Component, but which is not part of that Major Component, and (b) serves only to enable use of the work with that Major Component, or to implement a Standard Interface for which an implementation is available to the public in source code form. I don't think OpenSSL is included in the normal form of packaging Linux, and I don't think it satisfies (b) either. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.