From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs will never be a WYSIWYG-editor and should not try to Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:58:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <2013-11-22T16-27-58@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <83k3g0cnby.fsf@gnu.org> <2013-11-24T11-44-42@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <83zjotbv29.fsf@gnu.org> <87iovf640c.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385481511 16458 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2013 15:58:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: news1142@Karl-Voit.at, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 26 16:58:38 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlL26-00063u-17 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:58:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59589 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlL25-0004lf-OJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:58:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34375) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlL1w-0004aQ-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:58:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlL1v-0002Rs-2m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42919) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlL1u-0002Ro-Vj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:58:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlL1s-0004ZH-RP; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:58:24 -0500 In-reply-to: <87iovf640c.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (message from Bastien on Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:01:07 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165763 Archived-At: [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. I hope that my suggestion to test Org will somehow not be burried with this huge thread :) I tried it a little bit and it ran into an undefined function. Then I rebuilt the autoloads. I will try it again when I have time. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.