From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:54:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87d2lufg2o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385103271 6668 80.91.229.3 (22 Nov 2013 06:54:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 06:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 22 07:54:35 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjkdP-0002Mu-Fu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 07:54:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37156 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjkdP-0000V7-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:54:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjkdM-0000Up-5i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:54:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjkdL-0004R6-BN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:54:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjkdL-0004R2-4O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:54:31 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjkdK-0006qt-Ix; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:54:30 -0500 In-reply-to: <87d2lufg2o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165534 Archived-At: [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. To be frank, I think your goals for this feature are incoherent. You say you want non-Emacs users to use Emacs, then you turn around and deprecate exactly those features of this project (Word file-format compatibility, *Office-alike UI). I think you misunderstood what I said. I said that people should not send Word files. That is a different question from whether we should handle that format. I think we should. What I said about the UI is that surely it would not be so similar that people would get confused. To make them similar would be a tremendous additional job. I don't think we need to do that. People can adapt to different UI details. (It would be a much smaller adaptation than adapting to today's Emacs.) However, people could eventually work on that if they want to. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.