From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modern conventions for structuring Emacs Lisp libraries Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87hacvn8sm.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380991928 31738 80.91.229.3 (5 Oct 2013 16:52:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 16:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thorsten Jolitz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 05 18:52:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5Q-0000Ez-B0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 18:52:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52436 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5Q-0007S6-0E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46293) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5L-0007Rj-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5K-0006EL-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34804) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5K-0006EG-Du for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:06 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5J-0003Tu-EW; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:05 -0400 In-reply-to: <87hacvn8sm.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Thorsten Jolitz on Sat, 05 Oct 2013 15:31:37 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163884 Archived-At: [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. Regarding the file keywords, the change you've proposed has some fatal flaws. | ;; ** MetaData | ;; :PROPERTIES: | ;; :copyright: Thorsten_Jolitz | ;; :copyright-since: 2013 | ;; :version: 0.9 | ;; :licence: GPL3+ | ;; :licence-url: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/ It is legally inadequate, since it doesn't have a standard copyright notice. A standard copyright notice looks like Copyright YEARS NAME It is inadequate for informing users about their rights, and the lack of warranty, and about our philosophy, because it lacks the explicit license notice which states those things. It may also be legally insufficient for making the license clear. We want people to see these words in the source file: | ;; This file is part of GNU Emacs. | | ;; GNU Emacs is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify | ;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by | ;; the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or | ;; (at your option) any later version. | | ;; GNU Emacs is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, | ;; but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of | ;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the | ;; GNU General Public License for more details. | | ;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License | ;; along with GNU Emacs. If not, see . This part has to be kept as it is. Those issues don't apply to the library header lines: | ;; Maintainer: FSF | ;; Keywords: help, internal | ;; Package: emacs We could change them if it is an improvement. However, I think your format is worse for humans. We should not make it worse for humans just to cater to programs that some people use. You can change the programs instead. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.