From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:59:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <523ED74D.4030205@online.de> <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> <87k3i8vj93.fsf@yandex.ru> <83bo3kk6hh.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh8gzee5.fsf@yandex.ru> <871u4go1bp.fsf@gmail.com> <837ge8jalb.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379955590 14049 80.91.229.3 (23 Sep 2013 16:59:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, pjb@informatimago.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 23 18:59:52 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VO9UF-0002gh-RD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:59:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41748 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO9UF-0002DA-Ia for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:59:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51279) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO9UC-0002Cj-0k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:59:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO9UB-0000nL-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:59:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO9UA-0000nG-To for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:59:46 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO9U9-0008Id-Dw; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:59:45 -0400 In-reply-to: <837ge8jalb.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:50:08 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163588 Archived-At: [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. Perhaps post a comment on reddit to show what the tutorial really says. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.