From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Detecting display/frame capability in an Emacs daemon Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:33:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1ev1uchryvm.fsf@LT-MMAUGER.office.techtarget.com> <1361060596.66870.YahooMailNeo@web160902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <87obfiwge8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361206724 2768 80.91.229.3 (18 Feb 2013 16:58:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael@mauger.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 18 17:59:04 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U7U3S-0005JG-U0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:59:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52344 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7U39-0002u6-2h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:58:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55134) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Sj8-0002us-Eg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:34:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Six-0008EJ-85 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:33:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43794) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Six-0008EB-3x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:33:47 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7SiL-0007NI-QU; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:33:10 -0500 In-reply-to: <87obfiwge8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157140 Archived-At: > I am unfamiliar with the things you are using but I do it with > rsync. It would be a clear thing if that damned "cloud" didn't > obscure it. Not "obscure", "abstract". I meant "obscure". The term "cloud computing" is not a clean abstraction but a confusion between different and unrelated ways of using the network. But in this particular case it seems to be precisely the right level of abstraction. I disagree. The abstraction you have in mind is just one of the several unrelated meanings that people use "cloud computing" for. I think file synching is the right term for this. The difference between that and "sharing resources among his own machines" is so small that they seem equivalent to me, which means it is not wrong. However, "cloud computing" means other very different things as well. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call