From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: get-live-buffer primitive Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:44:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <505190CB.5010809@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347540298 29941 80.91.229.3 (13 Sep 2012 12:44:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Antipov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 14:45:01 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TC8mz-0005kX-5F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:45:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47276 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC8mv-0005IW-Dh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:44:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56443) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC8mZ-00055a-80 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:44:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC8mV-0004cL-9r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:38918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC8mV-0004cF-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:44:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC8mU-0002b9-1B; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:44:30 -0400 In-reply-to: <505190CB.5010809@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Antipov on Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:52:43 +0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153277 Archived-At: What about such a primitive? We already have live_buffer used in markers code, so we can use this internal thing in Fget_live_buffer and avoid duplicating some things in elisp... `get-buffer' should never return a dead buffer. (Dead buffers are removed from Vbuffer_alist.) If `get-buffer' ever does return a dead buffer, that is a bug, so we should fix it rather than adding some other primitive. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call