From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:32:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sjcayo2g.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343773965 14319 80.91.229.3 (31 Jul 2012 22:32:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 01 00:32:45 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKzc-0004Ta-On for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:32:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49766 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKzc-0004jK-2q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:32:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45385) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKzZ-0004jB-Jc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:32:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKzY-0006TT-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:32:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:53896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKzY-0006TO-BV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:32:40 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKzX-0000eg-8D; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:32:39 -0400 In-reply-to: <87sjcayo2g.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152052 Archived-At: > It cannot be reconciled with the goals of the free software movement, > so our mission includes changing [the prospective dependence on > "the cloud" that everybody predicts or at least fears]. Do you have a plan for changing that you've talked about, or are willing to talk about? I don't have a plan for how to win this. However, the first step is clear: don't grant legitimacy to what they suggest we do. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call