From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:35:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83d36wfcf1.fsf@gnu.org> <834ns7g9r8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335544512 8331 80.91.229.3 (27 Apr 2012 16:35:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, steve.yegge@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 18:35:11 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SNo8V-0000GM-0w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:35:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46648 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNo8U-0004Di-Au for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNo8R-0004BX-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:35:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNo8P-0000Di-OW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:38147) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNo8P-0000DQ-Lb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:35:05 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNo8M-0005PN-9b; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:35:02 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:16:41 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150091 Archived-At: I'm really really happy that Emacs Lisp isn't Scheme-like. Stuff like (assq 'foo bar) ⇒ #f would just drive me totally batty. I think splitting apart the different meanings of nil in Lisp was an unfortunate mistake in Scheme. This sort of cleanliness is only desirable theoretically, not in practice. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call