From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: NaCl support for Emacs (was: GnuTLS for W32)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:01:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1RkYWA-0007l4-TE@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87liphne9e.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> (message from Ted Zlatanov on Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:26:21 -0500)
> From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:26:21 -0500
>
> I'm interested in bringing in support for the NaCl cryptographic library
> for Emacs, after 24.1 is out. There is info on NaCl here:
>
> http://nacl.cr.yp.to/index.html
Call me weird or old-fashioned, but that library's build procedure
looks odd, to say the least.
It's as if Make and Autoconf never existed: the entire build is done
by a series of shell scripts, all of them called `do', which have
specific knowledge about several platforms hardcoded into them (do the
developers really intend to maintain all this mess?).
On top of that, the top-level `do' modifies PATH and LD_LIBRAY_PATH
(what? why??) as it sees fit, and redirects all its output to a log
file, so you basically run blind, like in bad old DOS days (can you
say "tail -f"?).
Also, the scripts run all kinds of non-standard tools and compiler
switches, and although they seem to ignore the resulting errors, how
would J.R. Hacker become confident that the build succeeded and she
can use the results? E.g., what do you get out of this snippet of the
build log:
=== Tue Jan 10 03:28:17 EST 2012 === checking gcc -m32 -fomit-frame-pointer
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.3/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.3/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Is it good? is it bad? can I trust the results?
Finally, there's no Makefile anywhere in sight, and no installation
script that I could find. Bye-bye, "make install-strip", hello manual
installation.
Sorry, but I wouldn't touch such "software" with a 3-mile stick. Not
for Emacs, anyway.
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2011-12-31 13:46 ` gnutls for win32 Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-01 11:10 ` Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
2012-01-01 11:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-01 14:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-01 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-01 16:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-01 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-01 21:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-01 21:28 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-01 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-01 23:54 ` GnuTLS for W32 (was: gnutls for win32) Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-02 0:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-02 1:33 ` GnuTLS for W32 Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-02 1:44 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-02 2:35 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-02 2:57 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-02 3:18 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-02 4:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-02 16:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-02 17:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-02 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-02 18:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-02 22:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-03 0:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-03 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 14:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-03 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 17:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-03 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 18:34 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-03 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 19:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-03 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 20:25 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-04 6:48 ` Chong Yidong
2012-01-04 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 3:45 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-04 5:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 7:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-04 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 11:21 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-04 11:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-04 11:57 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-01-04 12:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-04 12:37 ` David Engster
2012-01-04 18:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-01-04 18:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 13:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 14:14 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-04 15:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-04 15:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-04 16:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-04 17:00 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-04 18:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-05 5:40 ` joakim
2012-01-05 15:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-04 19:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-04 19:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-04 23:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-05 0:18 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 2:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-05 2:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-05 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-05 7:04 ` Daniel Colascione
2012-01-05 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 20:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-04 20:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-04 22:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-04 22:47 ` chad
2012-01-04 23:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-05 5:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-05 13:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-05 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-05 14:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 16:19 ` chad
2012-01-05 20:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 23:14 ` chad
2012-01-05 23:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 23:58 ` Richard Riley
2012-01-06 0:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 7:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-06 0:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 1:05 ` chad
2012-01-06 1:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 1:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-06 1:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 2:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-06 3:08 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 3:56 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-06 4:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 5:49 ` chad
2012-01-06 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-06 12:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-07 2:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-06 13:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-07 2:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-07 3:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-07 9:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-07 13:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-07 15:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-07 1:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-07 1:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-07 5:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-07 1:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-05 15:08 ` joakim
2012-01-05 15:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-05 17:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-05 18:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-05 20:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-06 3:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-06 3:37 ` chad
2012-01-05 20:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 20:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 20:39 ` Richard Riley
2012-01-05 22:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 22:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-05 22:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 23:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-05 23:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-05 23:55 ` Richard Riley
2012-01-05 23:59 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-07 2:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-07 5:40 ` Richard Riley
2012-01-07 13:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-07 14:51 ` Richard Riley
2012-01-07 15:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-08 15:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-09 1:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-09 14:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-09 14:26 ` NaCl support for Emacs (was: GnuTLS for W32) Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-09 15:30 ` NaCl support for Emacs Stefan Monnier
2012-01-09 16:43 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-09 16:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-09 17:48 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-09 18:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-09 18:21 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-10 1:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-09 16:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-09 22:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-10 1:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-10 1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-10 1:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-10 1:54 ` Richard Riley
2012-01-10 2:34 ` libnettle for Emacs (was: NaCl support for Emacs) Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-10 2:43 ` libnettle for Emacs Richard Riley
2012-01-10 3:01 ` NaCl support " Daniel Colascione
2012-01-10 11:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-10 12:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-10 3:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-10 11:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-10 12:51 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-10 13:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-10 16:01 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-10 20:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-09 20:48 ` joakim
2012-01-09 17:09 ` NaCl support for Emacs (was: GnuTLS for W32) Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-09 17:26 ` NaCl support for Emacs Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-09 17:29 ` NaCl support for Emacs (was: GnuTLS for W32) Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-10 0:57 ` NaCl support for Emacs Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-10 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-01-10 10:46 ` NaCl support for Emacs (was: GnuTLS for W32) Carsten Mattner
2012-01-11 5:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-11 10:42 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-11 12:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-11 12:49 ` NaCl support for Emacs Harald Hanche-Olsen
2012-01-11 12:59 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-11 15:47 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-11 15:58 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-11 16:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-11 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-11 14:23 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-11 16:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-11 19:40 ` NaCl support for Emacs (was: GnuTLS for W32) Richard Stallman
2012-01-08 7:40 ` GnuTLS for W32 Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-08 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-06 0:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-06 0:59 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 14:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-06 14:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 15:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-06 15:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-06 16:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-07 10:24 ` Chong Yidong
2012-01-07 13:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-07 13:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-07 21:03 ` Reiner Steib
2012-01-05 5:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 21:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 22:34 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-05 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-05 15:17 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-05 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 19:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-04 21:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 15:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-04 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 19:39 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-04 21:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 23:18 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-05 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 13:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-03 13:37 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-03 14:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 15:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-03 15:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-03 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 18:10 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-03 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 13:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-03 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-04 11:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-04 12:26 ` joakim
2012-01-04 14:22 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-01-04 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-03 14:14 ` Jason Rumney
2012-01-02 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-02 8:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-02 10:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-02 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-02 12:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-02 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-02 14:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-02 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-02 8:47 ` GnuTLS for W32 (was: gnutls for win32) Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-02 9:47 ` GnuTLS for W32 Jason Rumney
2012-01-03 19:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-01 22:32 ` gnutls for lose32 Richard Stallman
2012-01-02 6:55 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-02 10:46 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-02 11:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-02 13:09 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-02 13:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-02 13:28 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-02 19:05 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-02 16:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-02 22:52 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-02 19:05 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-02 12:17 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-02 13:06 ` Carsten Mattner
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