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* M-x in shell after emacs --daemon
@ 2011-11-26  0:39 T. V. Raman
  2011-11-27  1:42 ` Richard Stallman
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From: T. V. Raman @ 2011-11-26  0:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

This is when running on Linux.

Start emacs --daemon -- then launch an emacsclient frame --
either tty or graphical.

M-x shell 

programs like w report " 10 columns not wide enough. 
stty cols 80 fixes w -- but top  fails in that it displays just
the first column of top output -- guess it thinks the terminal
still has 10 cols.
-- 

-- 

-- 



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* Re: M-x in shell after emacs --daemon
  2011-11-26  0:39 M-x in shell after emacs --daemon T. V. Raman
@ 2011-11-27  1:42 ` Richard Stallman
  2011-12-11 20:19   ` Dimitri Fontaine
       [not found] ` <CAC=50j_zjvonNOWe_B37t6fcB7JN4XBpJzMdqPccPzwVgsPiBA@mail.gmail.com>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2011-11-27  1:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tv.raman.tv; +Cc: emacs-devel

    This is when running on Linux.

I thought that was not possible.  Aren't you running on GNU/Linux?

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
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USA
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* Re: M-x in shell after emacs --daemon
  2011-11-27  1:42 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2011-12-11 20:19   ` Dimitri Fontaine
  2011-12-12  0:49     ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dimitri Fontaine @ 2011-12-11 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rms; +Cc: tv.raman.tv, emacs-devel

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>     This is when running on Linux.
>
> I thought that was not possible.

I believe it is.

  http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html

  Linux distribution

  I compiled a 2.6.20 Linux kernel (I guess any other version would work
  provided there is still an FPU emulator). The Linux kernel
  configuration, patch and the source code of the Linux starter (kind of
  BIOS) are available: linuxstart-20110820.tar.gz.

  The disk image is just a ram disk image loaded at boot time. It
  contains a filesystem generated with Buildroot containing BusyBox. I
  added my toy C compiler TinyCC and my unfinished but usable emacs
  clone QEmacs. There is also a small MS-DOS .COM launcher I use to test
  the 16 bit emulation with a tiny .COM program to compute pi and a
  small self-assembling assembler for MS-DOS.

Several components here are licenced under the GPL, but that does not
make them GNU projects, this linux is running fine and is not GNU/Linux.
Your argument about calling the OS GNU/Linux would stop being fair
should you fail to get your facts right.

Regards,
-- 
dim

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* Re: M-x in shell after emacs --daemon
  2011-12-11 20:19   ` Dimitri Fontaine
@ 2011-12-12  0:49     ` Richard Stallman
  2011-12-13  2:25       ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2011-12-12  0:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dimitri Fontaine; +Cc: tv.raman.tv, emacs-devel

      The disk image is just a ram disk image loaded at boot time. It
      contains a filesystem generated with Buildroot containing BusyBox. I
      added my toy C compiler TinyCC and my unfinished but usable emacs
      clone QEmacs. There is also a small MS-DOS .COM launcher I use to test
      the 16 bit emulation with a tiny .COM program to compute pi and a
      small self-assembling assembler for MS-DOS.

How curious.  It sounds like this is not GNU/Linux,
but another system that is almost completely different.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/



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* Re: M-x in shell after emacs --daemon
  2011-12-12  0:49     ` Richard Stallman
@ 2011-12-13  2:25       ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2011-12-13  2:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dim; +Cc: tv.raman.tv, rms, emacs-devel

	  The disk image is just a ram disk image loaded at boot time. It
	  contains a filesystem generated with Buildroot containing BusyBox. I
	  added my toy C compiler TinyCC and my unfinished but usable emacs
	  clone QEmacs. There is also a small MS-DOS .COM launcher I use to test
	  the 16 bit emulation with a tiny .COM program to compute pi and a
	  small self-assembling assembler for MS-DOS.

This is not GNU/Linux, but it isn't just Linux.  It does contain the
other necessary parts of a system.  

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/



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* Re: M-x in shell after emacs --daemon
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@ 2011-11-28  8:24     ` Tim Cross
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tim Cross @ 2011-11-28  8:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tv.raman.tv; +Cc: Emacs developers

I upgraded to the most recent bzr sources for emacs and svn sources
for emacspeak and tested again on both 32 bit and 64 bit Xubuntu
systems. I tested with emacs started in daemon mode as part of my
xsession startup and starting just under a virtual console. In neither
case was I able to reproduce the issue you are seeing. I ran
emacsclient -c under X and emacsclient -t underthe virtual console and
then ran M-x shell. Issuing w, ls, top and other commands which I
thought might have problems, but all worked fine.

The emacs I'm running is compiled with all standard configure options
and built with GTK+ support.  The only two 'no' responses reported by
configure are for imagemagick and selinux support. Emacs is installed
in /usr/local

I you still have not got a resolution to this by next weekend, I'll
try installing stumpwm - its been a while since I tried running it and
was thinking about giving it another try, so this could be a way to
kill two birds with one rock.

Tim

On 28 November 2011 14:20, T. V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not running gnome -- when Ido run X, I  run stumpwm.
>
> I'm definitely seeing the problem with no X in sight.
>
>>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> writes:
>    Tim> Hi Raman, I don't see this behavior. I'm running 64bit
>    Tim> Emacs 24, built from bzr on 18th and emacspeak from svn
>    Tim> revision 7410.
>    Tim>
>    Tim> Neither M-x shell or M-x term give any errors or
>    Tim> warnings when running using emacsclient and emacs
>    Tim> started with --daemon. I'm starting emacs as part of my
>    Tim> normal login. Tested both under X and by switching to a
>    Tim> virtual console and running emacsclient -t. I'm running
>    Tim> under Xfce on an xubuntu 11.10 system.
>    Tim>
>    Tim> Are you running under GNOME? I remember seeing issues
>    Tim> relating to problems with shell mode and GNOME which I
>    Tim> think were related to terminal description problems
>    Tim> i.e. emacs unable to determine correct height/width
>    Tim> etc. Maybe grep the archive?
>    Tim>
>    Tim> I usually update this machine on sundays, so will update
>    Tim> later today and test agin. f I notice any issues with
>    Tim> top or w, will post again.
>    Tim>
>    Tim> Tim
>    Tim>
>    Tim> On 26 November 2011 11:39, T. V. Raman
>    Tim> <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> wrote:
>    >> This is when running on Linux.
>    >>
>    >> Start emacs --daemon -- then launch an emacsclient frame
>    >> -- either tty or graphical.
>    >>
>    >> M-x shell
>    >>
>    >> programs like w report " 10 columns not wide enough. stty
>    >> cols 80 fixes w -- but top  fails in that it displays just
>    >> the first column of top output -- guess it thinks the
>    >> terminal still has 10 cols.
>    >> --
>    >>
>    >> --
>    >>
>    >> --
>    >>
>    >>
>    Tim>
>    Tim>
>    Tim>
>    Tim> -- Tim Cross
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> --raman
>



-- 
Tim Cross



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