From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `isearch-allow-scroll' - a misnomer and a bad design Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:58:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20110911103940.GA3246@acm.acm><3C4B7E318EB04AE4B7DB9FD0E4C67629@us.oracle.com><20110911173012.GA3088@acm.acm><20110912093651.GA3249@acm.acm><20110913142732.GB3081@acm.acm><7E2EE144B11D413583E1E659CDE15186@us.oracle.com><8739g0vyuy.fsf@mail.jurta.org><4E6FF63A.4070604@gmail.com><2F1337889F394491BA778ACA46799812@us.oracle.com><874o07m3ay.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <87r539c0qx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1E326F7C4A694007BF33B952C6718798@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316699948 20126 80.91.229.12 (22 Sep 2011 13:59:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: md5i@md5i.com, dan.colascione@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dmoncayo@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, yandros@mit.edu To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 22 15:59:01 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6jno-00071u-KQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:59:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60910 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6jno-0004v2-8j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:59:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6jng-0004sP-5y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:58:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6jnb-0003YN-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:58:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:35591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6jnb-0003YJ-2M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:58:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6jnX-0000yA-Vd; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:58:43 -0400 In-reply-to: <1E326F7C4A694007BF33B952C6718798@us.oracle.com> (drew.adams@oracle.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144188 Archived-At: Alan's "proposal" wrt scrolling is not a proposal. It has been part of Emacs since 2003/2/24, according to a comment in isearch.el. Blame its admission on the Emacs maintainer back then, I guess. ;-) It is a user _option_, and by default the behavior is the one you prefer. (FWIW, I prefer the same behavior as you for this: `C-v' exits Isearch.) Since the default was not change, I have nothing against it. I may have been the one to approve it, at that period. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/