From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:31:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87vcvmtc7z.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de> <87liwgg3vv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y60elo83.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4E131B9C.4020806@swipnet.se> <87liwc1k08.fsf@gmail.com> <34F70A20-5300-4F2C-A271-C928F67F27EF@mit.edu> <8B707CB3-6667-4D5F-8BE9-D214D46B507A@mit.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310057815 4376 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2011 16:56:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 18:56:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qersb-0006tl-FE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:56:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46784 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qersa-0002Mg-Bm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:56:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43435) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QerU9-0003GM-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QerU8-00040C-2q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:31:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:40640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QerU7-000402-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:31:27 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QerU6-0007iY-Jf; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:31:26 -0400 In-reply-to: <8B707CB3-6667-4D5F-8BE9-D214D46B507A@mit.edu> (message from chad on Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:28:07 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141736 Archived-At: You laugh, but I saw this pretty frequently when I last looked; root's mbox was filled with errors, bounces, and bug reports. I think we need to understand more about how that failure occurred. How did those messages get into root's inbox? Was there no MTA installed? Was an MTA installed and not configured? Was an MTA installed and configured wrong? If so, which MTA was it? If this was due to an MTA installed and not configured, we need to be concerned about it, but we should also ask whether the distro in question has fixed its problem since. if it was due to an error in configuration, I think that was the sysadmin's fault, so it isn't our responsibility to make things work despite his mistake. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/