From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please don't refer to Emacs as "open source" Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:36:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <010001cc29eb$fc806cb0$f5814610$@cs.ua.edu> <87zkljcxg4.fsf@gmail.com> <877h8niao3.fsf@gmail.com> <8739jbxpjh.fsf@gmail.com> <87mxhjp5od.fsf@gmail.com> <87d3ifuqi6.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308181278 27770 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2011 23:41:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Antoine Levitt Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 01:41:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzhw-0003xF-3H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:41:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46767 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzhv-0006u5-Ak for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzdj-00061t-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:36:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzdg-0006Z7-Ny for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:36:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:55399) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzdg-0006Yz-BP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:36:48 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzdf-0003r1-OS; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:36:47 -0400 In-reply-to: <87d3ifuqi6.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Antoine Levitt on Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:18:57 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140527 Archived-At: This is empty arguing at its finest, so can we please recognize that everybody is agreeing with each other, answer the bloody survey, let the poor man do his job, and move on? Are we all agreeing with each other? Do we have an obligation to answer an "open source" survey just because a stranger asks us to? I don't think so. I wouldn't spend a minute working on an activity that carries the banner of "open source", because I can do other things in that minute that will help the free software movement more. On the other hand, to convince the people doing that activity to also mention "free software" is an achievement for the movement. That's worth my time. I might well agree to answer the survey in exchange for that success. Have you actually read the survey? It's all about how, not why. Any reason anyone might have for contributing to emacs is entirely irrelevant. The liberationist motives of GNU may be irrelevant to those questions, but these motives are the basis for our work, and those questions are not. When I saw his message, I thought about what I could do to serve the goal of users' freedom in relation to it. I took action, and it looks like I have partly succeeded. Just answering his questions would have been easy, but it wouldn't do the job. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/