From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: DocView now supports OpenDocument & MS Office formats Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:58:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87hbduhno4.fsf@gnu.org> <87sjxa2xao.fsf@member.fsf.org> <878vz1dsox.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87ipy5cach.fsf@member.fsf.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294142325 5323 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2011 11:58:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 11:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monkey@sandpframing.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 12:58:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa5XC-0000y2-62 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:58:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57257 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pa5XA-0000QX-RG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52174 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pa5X6-0000Pw-1p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:58:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa5X5-0003Nx-0F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:58:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:38865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa5X3-0003NY-IV; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:58:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa5Wt-0008N0-7H; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:58:19 -0500 In-reply-to: <87ipy5cach.fsf@member.fsf.org> (message from Tassilo Horn on Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:00:14 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134257 Archived-At: > From: Tassilo Horn > Cc: rms@gnu.org, monkey@sandpframing.com, jasonr@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:00:14 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Personally, I generally dislike features that require me to install > > gazillions of other packages. But that's me; the world seems to move > > in the opposite direction. > > Well, I tend to agree. But OTOH, implementing the wheel again from > scratch and using up gazillion hours of man-power to somehow keep up > with existing free tools (like OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice, KOffice) just > to have it in Emacs is not a real alternative. Yes, and OTTH, you install a package, which tells you it needs another package, which then tells you need yet another, which tells you it doesn't support your version of the kernel, etc. etc, until eventually you end up wasting many hours upgrading a large portion of your well-tuned system, destabilizing it in the process with the bleeding edge. But I digress.