From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: DocView now supports OpenDocument & MS Office formats Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 03:18:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87hbduhno4.fsf@gnu.org> <87sjxa2xao.fsf@member.fsf.org> <878vz1dsox.fsf@member.fsf.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294129153 10635 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2011 08:19:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monkey@sandpframing.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 09:19:01 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa26c-0002FO-Vu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:18:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59834 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pa26W-0005kt-Sg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 03:18:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39405 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pa26O-0005ix-Jx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 03:18:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa26K-0001EP-8y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 03:18:43 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:41018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa26D-0001Au-QV; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 03:18:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa263-0000qB-L8; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 03:18:23 -0500 In-reply-to: <878vz1dsox.fsf@member.fsf.org> (message from Tassilo Horn on Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:38:38 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134248 Archived-At: > From: Tassilo Horn > Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:38:38 +0100 > Cc: monkey@sandpframing.com, jasonr@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > In principle, writing ODF support in Emacs Lisp would be > > preferable, but that's a gigantic job and it might run too slowly. > > Indeed. But IMO emacs is not really a WYSIWYG editor, and doesn't want > to be one anyway. Actually, Emacs does want to have at least specialized mode(s) that are WYSIWYG. The beginning is in enriched-mode, and there's this entry in etc/TODO: ** Program Enriched mode to read and save in RTF. [Is there actually a decent single definition of RTF? Maybe see info at http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/.] This task seems to be addressed by http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/emacs-rtf/, which is still in very early stages. Volunteers are welcome. > But there are some tools that convert from markup > languages emacs support to OpenDocument, like for example docbook2odf. Personally, I generally dislike features that require me to install gazillions of other packages. But that's me; the world seems to move in the opposite direction. See it as a rant of an old-timer.