From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: MON KEY <monkey@sandpframing.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org
Subject: Re: DocView now supports OpenDocument & MS Office formats
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:11:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1PZW9G-0000HT-4j@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinjK2Jpsgv-iZC3jvm7G_-q-dn5_VDuWzZD0aUQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from MON KEY on Sun, 2 Jan 2011 02:29:26 -0500)
Oracle's stated intent is to supply the Oracle OpenOffice deliverables
with SaaS capabilities. This is not a theoretical matter, its
happening.
"SaaS capabilities" is rather vague -- could you tell me what this
refers to?
The issue is important because OpenOffice is important. I am not yet
sure it related to Emacs, but I should learn about it anyway.
In order for an Emacs to gain ODF support via the proposed docview.el
interface one must leverage python/pyuno/UNO/OpenOffice/Java
The point is:
- interaction with the UNO bridge is not (necessarily) simple RPC;
That is too vague to draw conclusions from.
- the UNO SDK is a poorly specified;
That would be a problem if we cannot make it work.
- Its protocol is compromised in lieu of the Sun/Oracle merger;
"Compromised" is rather vague, so I am not sure this is an issue.
- asking Emacs users to embrace these dependencies just to gain ODF
support is tantamount to a tacit endorsement of Oracle's reframing
of software as service in a distributed manner;
I am not sure "Software as a Service in a distributed manner" is
coherent. Often the alternative to a centralized network service is a
distributed system in which users' machines cooperate.
Thus, I have doubts about this conclusion.
- asking Emacs users to install the python/pyuno/UNO/OpenOffice/Java
dependencies just to gain ODF support is ironic given the extent to
which the Emacs-Devels have endeavored to keep the Emacs footprint
small;
People who want to use ODF need to install OpenOffice anyway,
so I am not sure this is a terrible problem.
If there's another way to do the job, it might be better.
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-02 22:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-30 22:32 DocView now supports OpenDocument & MS Office formats MON KEY
2010-12-30 22:59 ` Jason Rumney
2010-12-31 2:12 ` MON KEY
2010-12-31 8:35 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-31 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 11:33 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-01-02 0:33 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-02 7:29 ` MON KEY
2011-01-02 22:11 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2011-01-03 4:14 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-01-04 4:08 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-04 4:35 ` Drew Adams
2011-01-04 5:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-01-03 8:25 ` MON KEY
2011-01-04 4:08 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-03 8:42 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-01-04 4:08 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-04 7:38 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-01-04 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-04 9:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-01-04 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-05 19:42 ` Eduard Wiebe
2011-01-06 18:42 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-07 11:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-08 21:54 ` Eduard Wiebe
2011-01-09 4:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-09 20:00 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-09 20:13 ` Eduard Wiebe
2011-01-04 20:36 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-04 21:07 ` Jambunathan K
2011-01-05 15:04 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-04 21:17 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-01-05 2:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-01-05 7:38 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-01-05 12:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-01-20 7:32 ` Kevin Rodgers
2011-05-06 12:53 ` Jambunathan K
2011-01-05 23:37 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-06 7:19 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-01-04 21:52 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-05 5:23 ` Miles Bader
2011-01-05 7:40 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-05-06 14:01 ` Jambunathan K
2011-01-03 13:04 ` CHENG Gao
2011-01-03 14:14 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-01-04 4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-02 22:11 ` Richard Stallman
2010-12-31 8:08 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-31 16:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-01 0:06 ` MON KEY
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-12-30 14:07 Tassilo Horn
2010-12-30 14:30 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-30 14:50 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-30 15:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-30 15:48 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-30 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-30 18:10 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-05-06 15:30 ` Jambunathan K
2011-05-06 16:09 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-30 15:22 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-30 16:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-30 17:20 ` Tassilo Horn
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