From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:28:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87lj9ayp2f.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201007221414.39227.tassilo@member.fsf.org> <876307s8dm.fsf@kanis.fr> <878w539u7m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: ams@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279870732 25960 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2010 07:38:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 23 09:38:50 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcCqH-0002OQ-7M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:38:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39640 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcCqG-0006VY-F3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36618 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcCgU-0001M2-Jd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OcCgS-0002gq-1e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:55990) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OcCgR-0002gm-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:28:39 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcCgQ-0008JH-Rg; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:28:39 -0400 In-reply-to: <878w539u7m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:45:17 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127677 Archived-At: > It's technically possible for emacs to have sane key binding, it's > just political not do so. I refuse to call that sort of timing-based key sequence difference "sane". For example, it makes bug reports containing key lossage useless since the key lossage fails to mention the delays between key presses. Makes using the minibuffer to look at what you pressed useless too...