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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guile in Emacs
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:55:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1O3E73-0000xX-Pz@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m27ho68tl1.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Helmut Eller on Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:46:18 +0200)

    >     The Tex sources of the "draft" of the ANSI standard are available on the
    >     net[1].
    >
    > What license do they carry?

    Apparently none.  The only paragraph containing the word "copyright" is
    this:

      Special thanks to Guy L. Steele Jr. and Digital Press for producing {\CLtL},
      and for relaxing copyright restrictions enough to make it possible for that
      document's text to provide an early basis of this work.

Unless they state a license elsewhere, they are not free.

	- All these organizations agreed that they would place the work (to  
      which they held copyright since they were paying Symbolics to do it  
      as a work for hire) into the public domain. Except some lawyer  
      pointed out that you can't really affirmatively put something in the  
      public domain.

You can in the US, according to my lawyers.

		     So they did something--not clear what--to assert their  
      copyright but to allow anyone to use the draft they were paying to  
      have produced for any purpose whatsoever.

That would be tantamout to granting a license.
If we can find the statement they made, it might be adequate.

I will ask GLS if he can do anything about this.  However, unless you
hear about something that changes the situation, you may as well give
up on that text.




  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-17 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4B8147A9.7030504@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <87ljemdzxo.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
2010-02-23  5:31   ` Next pretest, and branching plans Jason Rumney
2010-02-23 18:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-23 21:12       ` Jason Rumney
2010-02-24  6:04     ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-24 13:34       ` Sean Sieger
2010-02-24 15:05         ` Davis Herring
2010-02-24 15:18           ` Sean Sieger
2010-02-24 14:05       ` Chong Yidong
2010-02-25 14:26         ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-26 18:03           ` manuals [was Re: Next pretest, and branching plans] Glenn Morris
2010-02-27  2:32             ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-27 16:52         ` Next pretest, and branching plans Johan Bockgård
2010-03-03  3:52           ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-05  0:31             ` Johan Bockgård
2010-03-05 19:50               ` integer overflow [was Re: Next pretest, and branching plans] Glenn Morris
2010-03-05 22:35                 ` integer overflow Stefan Monnier
2010-03-06  2:55                   ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-06  3:11                     ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-06  7:03                       ` Helmut Eller
2010-03-06 15:45                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-06 16:23                           ` Davis Herring
2010-03-06 16:33                           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-07  7:52                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-07 16:06                               ` David Kastrup
2010-03-07 17:18                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-07 17:42                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-03-08  4:49                                     ` Jay Belanger
2010-03-08  8:04                                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-08 14:41                                   ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 17:32                                     ` Guile in Emacs Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 18:42                                     ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Chad Brown
2010-03-09  7:07                                       ` Ken Raeburn
2010-03-09 16:22                                         ` Guile in Emacs Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-10  8:07                                           ` Ken Raeburn
2010-03-10 13:58                                             ` David Kastrup
2010-03-09  3:19                                     ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Richard Stallman
2010-04-11 23:33                                       ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-12 12:30                                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-12 20:05                                           ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 12:44                                             ` Guile in Emacs Bruce Stephens
2010-04-13 15:51                                               ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 16:07                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 18:56                                                   ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 19:22                                                     ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 10:14                                                   ` Bruce Stephens
2010-04-14 14:10                                                   ` joakim
2010-04-13 19:13                                                 ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14  1:47                                                   ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-14  3:33                                                     ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 23:33                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14  5:02                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14  6:45                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 19:07                                                       ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-14 19:34                                                         ` Bruce Stephens
2010-04-14 20:09                                                         ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2010-04-15  7:34                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 23:33                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15  3:52                                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-15  6:01                                                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  6:54                                                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-15 11:59                                                               ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-15 12:49                                                                 ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 13:54                                                                   ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-15 14:03                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15 16:13                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2010-04-16 13:48                                                                       ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16 14:03                                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-16 14:25                                                                           ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16 14:25                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-16 14:39                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-16 14:40                                                                           ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16  8:27                                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-17  4:41                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-19  7:52                                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-16 22:29                                                                     ` Emacs Info manuals (was: Guile in Emacs) Juri Linkov
2010-04-15 16:11                                                                 ` Guile in Emacs Drew Adams
2010-04-15  7:21                                                             ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15  7:36                                                               ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  8:34                                                                 ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15  9:06                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  9:45                                                                     ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-15 10:39                                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 18:47                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15 22:42                                                             ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-04-15 22:50                                                               ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-04-17  4:40                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15 23:02                                                             ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-17  4:40                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-17  6:46                                                                 ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-17 19:55                                                                   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2010-04-14 13:30                                                     ` John Wiegley
2010-04-14 14:18                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-14 15:40                                                       ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14  7:51                                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-04-14  8:42                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14  9:55                                                     ` immanuel litzroth
2010-04-14 10:28                                                       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 11:25                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-14 12:26                                                           ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 16:49                                                             ` Ken Raeburn
2010-04-14 18:29                                                               ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14 20:02                                                                 ` Ken Raeburn
2010-04-14 11:23                                                       ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 13:11                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-14 13:11                                                       ` Stephen Eilert
2010-04-14 13:49                                                         ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-14 15:47                                                     ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14 16:41                                                       ` Drew Adams
2010-04-14 20:10                                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-15 10:38                                                       ` Leo
2010-03-06 19:04                           ` integer overflow Helmut Eller
2010-03-06 21:26                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-07  7:51                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-07 19:05                       ` Johan Bockgård
2010-03-06 20:35                   ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-13  3:10     ` Next pretest, and branching plans Christoph
2010-03-13  7:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-13 14:54         ` Christoph
2010-03-13 18:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-13 19:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-14  2:38         ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-14  2:50           ` Christoph
2010-03-14  3:07             ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-14 17:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-17  0:29               ` Christoph
2010-03-17  4:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-17 12:44                   ` Jason Rumney

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