From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: OT: threats to Free Software (was: AW: Fwd: CEDET sync) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:48:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86bpf7q3fc.wl%lluis@ginnungagap.pc.ac.upc.edu> <87wrxvyijr.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4B8C42E2.3080308@siege-engine.com> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C09227D1F24@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <878wabxg0x.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mxyrhxq8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87635eycga.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hboyhfnt.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87zl2qwsgk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tysyvyut.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267656610 26014 80.91.229.12 (3 Mar 2010 22:50:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 03 23:50:05 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmxOB-0002fK-53 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:50:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33144 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmxO8-0001ja-Fo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:49:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NmxO3-0001jI-1t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:49:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57273 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmxO1-0001j9-PD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:49:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NmxO0-0000Gp-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:49:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:36459) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NmxNp-0000F7-Di for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:49:48 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmxMp-0005rR-1N; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:48:35 -0500 In-reply-to: <87tysyvyut.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121628 Archived-At: For cell phones, we need a cell phone whose software is free. OpenMoko tried to do this, but did not get it done well. I hope someone else will try. However, this involves manufacturing hardware, so the FSF is not in a position to do it. There are people who want to use reverse engineering to make free drivers for some Android phones. I don't see much connection between this and Emacs. Even if all the software in a phone is free, it can still be used to track you, so people who are against Big Brother will still decide not to use them.