From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bidi,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:01:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83tyu3iu6b.fsf@gnu.org> <201002011400.o11E0jMQ007420@beta.mvs.co.il> <83vdeghfqg.fsf@gnu.org> <201002012205.o11M5Sci011809@beta.mvs.co.il> <83k4uvh09o.fsf@gnu.org> <201002031310.o13DAqXd019253@beta.mvs.co.il> <83eil2gn7i.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265281502 18485 80.91.229.12 (4 Feb 2010 11:05:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 04 12:04:58 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NczW5-0005cY-Kn for gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:04:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NczW4-00069j-Fk for gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:04:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NczSu-0005Az-VO for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:01:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40043 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NczSu-0005AI-0e for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:01:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NczSt-0002jn-0f for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:01:39 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:47677) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NczSs-0002jh-HO; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:01:38 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NczSs-0002kT-1A; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:01:38 -0500 In-reply-to: <83eil2gn7i.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:59:13 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-bidi@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of Emacs support for multi-directional text." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bidi:511 gmane.emacs.devel:120894 Archived-At: > What you describe here is the Emacs screen as rectangle frame moving > over the visual ordered text. For truncation and continuation, yes. For horizontal scrolling, no: it works in the logical order. That is, scroll-left moves text in each line towards its respective margin: left margin for L2R lines, right margin for R2L. More about this near the end of this message. Please don't do that. It is counterintuitive, and contradicts the idea of scrolling left and right. When we have a horizontal scroll bar, that behavior will make no sense at all.