From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bidi,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83tyu3iu6b.fsf@gnu.org> <837hqyi1h7.fsf@gnu.org> <83r5p4hbfd.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265145862 11648 80.91.229.12 (2 Feb 2010 21:24:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 02 22:24:20 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcQEM-0005d4-MP for gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:24:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54031 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcQEM-0007hj-2J for gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:24:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NcQBg-0006RZ-KJ for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:21:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36356 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcQBf-0006Qv-Sk for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcQBc-0002D3-PH for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:43410) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcQBc-0002Ct-J5; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:21:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcQBc-00047v-6i; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:21:28 -0500 In-reply-to: <83r5p4hbfd.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:51:34 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-bidi@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of Emacs support for multi-directional text." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bidi:502 gmane.emacs.devel:120830 Archived-At: That can be done, but then we will probably need to introduce some new display features to indicate that the first character is scrolled off the margin. The margin glyphs indicate that; I don't we need to change anything there. > The definition of hscroll is not the same as how we number columns for > indentation purposes. That's true, but the effect of hscroll is defined in terms of columns, so I think it's best not to break the relation between column numbering and hscroll. The relation is that they count in the same units. R2L text will not alter that relationship in any case; one column as regards scrolling will still be one column as regards indentation.